Sobre hormigas y dinosaurios
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- Author：Cixin Liu
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Summary
La inteligencia es un destello fugaz en la larga noche de la historia cósmica。 Que pueblen la tierra no una sino dos especies inteligentes al mismo tiempo pone en cuestión cualquier cálculo de probabilidades。 El hecho de que esas dos especies， tan distintas como complementarias， forjen una alianza que a su vez enciende una civilización desafía toda lógica。
Los inicios de la alianza entre las hormigas y los dinosaurios fueron humildes， pero de ella surgieron la escritura， las matemáticas， los ordenadores e incluso los viajes espaciales。 Una verdadera era de las maravillas que， sin embargo， hará pagar un alto precio a la biosfera de la Tierra y a quienes dependen de ella。
Pese a todo， los dinosaurios se negarán a escuchar la advertencia de las hormigas sobre el inminente colapso ecológico， y al hacerlo dejarán a la Federación Fórmica frente a un único dilema: destruir a los dinosaurios， aniquilar una civilización ¿o morir junto a ellos？
Los inicios de la alianza entre las hormigas y los dinosaurios fueron humildes， pero de ella surgieron la escritura， las matemáticas， los ordenadores e incluso los viajes espaciales。 Una verdadera era de las maravillas que， sin embargo， hará pagar un alto precio a la biosfera de la Tierra y a quienes dependen de ella。
Pese a todo， los dinosaurios se negarán a escuchar la advertencia de las hormigas sobre el inminente colapso ecológico， y al hacerlo dejarán a la Federación Fórmica frente a un único dilema: destruir a los dinosaurios， aniquilar una civilización ¿o morir junto a ellos？
Reviews
Carlos
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3，5/5
Vikrant Rana
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3。5/5Picked up due to the author himself - one of my fav from modern Scifi world。 Book itself is like a long parable， with imagination。 Not exactly scifi but that's not the point。 A simple， fast read。 I do wish it was a little more complex。 3。5/5Picked up due to the author himself - one of my fav from modern Scifi world。 Book itself is like a long parable， with imagination。 Not exactly scifi but that's not the point。 A simple， fast read。 I do wish it was a little more complex。 。。。more
Rachel
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An interesting story That is part of what I’d call evolutionary SF （like the master of the sub genre - Tchaikovsky） But I think there are more layers to this story … I wonder if the dinosaurs are meant to be westerners？ Or large corporations？ Or。。？
Adam Smith
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I really wanted to give this book a five-star review， but it was just short of amazing。 It was really good， but I think it suffered from a poor translation。 It sometimes felt clunky and the punctuation choices weren't always the best。But the satire was 💯。 I almost felt like different sections of the book were satirizing different political situations。 From US-China relations to colonialism to the Cold War to general current potential WWIII problematics。 I felt that the final chapter was a perfec I really wanted to give this book a five-star review， but it was just short of amazing。 It was really good， but I think it suffered from a poor translation。 It sometimes felt clunky and the punctuation choices weren't always the best。But the satire was 💯。 I almost felt like different sections of the book were satirizing different political situations。 From US-China relations to colonialism to the Cold War to general current potential WWIII problematics。 I felt that the final chapter was a perfect short story by itself。 You obviously need the back story， but it reads as such a perfect microcosm of political tensions。 。。。more
Lacii
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Ezt is megéltük Sci-fi tanmese。Izgalmas alapkoncepció és tanulságos végkifejlet。Az egyetlen “problémám” a könyvvel， hogy a dinoszauruszok fejlődése túlságosan hasonlít az emberekére， nem úgy mint egy Adrian Tchaikovsky-nál （tudom tudom tudom， mindig hozzáhasonlítgatok mindenkit）， de persze ezt felfoghatjuk szándékos párhuzam és figyelmeztetésként。Viszont nagyon tetszett az író stílusa， így mindenképp be kell pótolnom a A Háromtest-probléma-t Ezt is megéltük Sci-fi tanmese。Izgalmas alapkoncepció és tanulságos végkifejlet。Az egyetlen “problémám” a könyvvel， hogy a dinoszauruszok fejlődése túlságosan hasonlít az emberekére， nem úgy mint egy Adrian Tchaikovsky-nál （tudom tudom tudom， mindig hozzáhasonlítgatok mindenkit）， de persze ezt felfoghatjuk szándékos párhuzam és figyelmeztetésként。Viszont nagyon tetszett az író stílusa， így mindenképp be kell pótolnom a A Háromtest-probléma-t 。。。more
Claudia
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Is the concept original？ Yes， sure。 It was engaging， challenging or at least a little bit interesting for me？ NOI'm sorry， but this was simply ridiculous and I really don't care about either the ants and their civilization or the dinosaurs and their doom，Abandoned。 Is the concept original？ Yes， sure。 It was engaging， challenging or at least a little bit interesting for me？ NOI'm sorry， but this was simply ridiculous and I really don't care about either the ants and their civilization or the dinosaurs and their doom，Abandoned。 。。。more
Joao DeMacedo
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Great， GREAT book！ A cautionary fable in the veins of “animal farm”。 This is Liu at his very best。 If you loved “the three body problem” trilogy， this book is a MUST read for you。 Why are you still reading this review？ Stop it and go get this book right now！ I mean it， i have nothing else to say。 Just go buy this book。 Go！ You better not still be reading these words… I’m very disappointed in in you， I’m shaking my head in disapproval。 Since you kept reading through though， here is a random fact: Great， GREAT book！ A cautionary fable in the veins of “animal farm”。 This is Liu at his very best。 If you loved “the three body problem” trilogy， this book is a MUST read for you。 Why are you still reading this review？ Stop it and go get this book right now！ I mean it， i have nothing else to say。 Just go buy this book。 Go！ You better not still be reading these words… I’m very disappointed in in you， I’m shaking my head in disapproval。 Since you kept reading through though， here is a random fact: If you write the word “buffalo” eight times in a row you will have created a complete and grammatically correct sentence。Yaks！ 。。。more
Alex
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Really interesting concept。 Reminded me a little of Stephen Baxter's Evolution。 Really interesting concept。 Reminded me a little of Stephen Baxter's Evolution。 。。。more
Mohit
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Set in the late Creatceous period， this is the story of two extremely different species co-inhabiting earth and relying heavily on each other for respective skills。 Beating the odds， these two species forge an alliance that sets a Civilisation in order， only to lose it again。 It is a light hearted take on animal instincts， codependence， disagreements， wars and chaos that ensues when religion or ego takes over sanity。 The story is told in a very uncomplicated way and that’s the strength of this b Set in the late Creatceous period， this is the story of two extremely different species co-inhabiting earth and relying heavily on each other for respective skills。 Beating the odds， these two species forge an alliance that sets a Civilisation in order， only to lose it again。 It is a light hearted take on animal instincts， codependence， disagreements， wars and chaos that ensues when religion or ego takes over sanity。 The story is told in a very uncomplicated way and that’s the strength of this book。 Recommended for short easy read。 。。。more
Zachary Flessert
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3。5/5， rounded up to four for capturing the tension and tragedy of failed cooperation。 Built off a short story in one of his collections， this novella/novel tells the parable of a dinosaur-ant civilisation that existed on Earth during the Cretaceous period。 There are many lessons here， and it begs for the reader to make connections to the world powers as they exist right now and their inability to cooperate。 Quick， entertaining， and a good read for anyone looking for a short thought provoking re 3。5/5， rounded up to four for capturing the tension and tragedy of failed cooperation。 Built off a short story in one of his collections， this novella/novel tells the parable of a dinosaur-ant civilisation that existed on Earth during the Cretaceous period。 There are many lessons here， and it begs for the reader to make connections to the world powers as they exist right now and their inability to cooperate。 Quick， entertaining， and a good read for anyone looking for a short thought provoking read。 。。。more
Bogdan
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Very nice idea with a good execution and an interesting story。 I think this is my first contact with the writing of Liu Cixin and I had a positive impression about it。
Alexander Theofanidis
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Small novel （novella？） cute as a button， describing the rise and abrupt fall of a joint civilization of dinosaurs and ants during the late Cretaceous period。It's a pitty that the only edition available is Subterranean Press， thus only few copies at high cost。 Probably will become collectible soon。 Good for the author， bad for the readers。 Small novel （novella？） cute as a button， describing the rise and abrupt fall of a joint civilization of dinosaurs and ants during the late Cretaceous period。It's a pitty that the only edition available is Subterranean Press， thus only few copies at high cost。 Probably will become collectible soon。 Good for the author， bad for the readers。 。。。more
Michael
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I just love the cut of this guy's jib。 I enjoyed this book- the way his mind works is awesome。 I just love the cut of this guy's jib。 I enjoyed this book- the way his mind works is awesome。 。。。more
Canon
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"And so we can assume that， through the endless night of antiquity， budding intelligences flickered on and then off again like the brief， brilliant twinkles of fireflies。"First translated into English by Holger Nahm in 2012， newly translated into English by Elizabeth Hanlon in 2020 （under the title Of Ants and Dinosaurs）， and produced as an audiobook （under this title， using， I think， the Nahm translation） in December 2021， this satirical sci-fi novella is probably new to most English readers of "And so we can assume that， through the endless night of antiquity， budding intelligences flickered on and then off again like the brief， brilliant twinkles of fireflies。"First translated into English by Holger Nahm in 2012， newly translated into English by Elizabeth Hanlon in 2020 （under the title Of Ants and Dinosaurs）， and produced as an audiobook （under this title， using， I think， the Nahm translation） in December 2021， this satirical sci-fi novella is probably new to most English readers of Liu， though its original publication in 2004 predates The Three-Body Problem by a couple years。 And if， like me， you're a big Three-Body fan， this factoid is pretty interesting， as one can see in this novella， as if in miniature， many of the themes that Liu would expand to such epic， universal scope in the Trilogy。 Tracing the history of the rise and fall of Ant and Dinosaur Civilization in the Cretaceous period， this novella is breezy and lighthearted （and as others have noted， great for a younger audience， whether that was intentional or not）， though the subjects it satirizes are hefty， including religious wars， xenophobia， labor exploitation， ecological disaster， nuclear proliferation， and general human shortsightedness。 It reminded me of the Batrachomyomachia， or Battle of Frogs and Mice， an Ancient Greek parody epic whose comedic core is that the frog and mice societies are all too human。 That is， the point is not to seriously imagine what civilization would have been like had ants and dinosaurs， not human beings， been the evolutionary scions of language and intelligence; it's to imagine other animals behaving like humans in order to highlight humanity's endemic stupidity， making the whole affair of human civilization seem rather quaint and tragically foolish。 It's like Dr。 Strangelove with T-Rexes。 Some specific connections to the Three-Body Trilogy: （1） events told from the perspective of ants， creatures that seem to stand for the perseverance of life and civilization （cf。 beginning of The Dark Forest; （2） allegorical fairy tales that convey complex information about civilizations （cf。 Yun's fairy tales in Death's End; （3） mutually alien societies trying to outwit one another in an existential war of attrition （cf。 can't say， for spoilers）; （4） suns suddenly appearing and vanishing as harbingers of doom （cf。 ditto）。 Also， having just read Kingdom of Characters by Jing Tsu， I couldn't help seeing an allegory for the development of modern Chinese script in the evolution of the dinosaur's writing system from ungainly pictographs on gigantic wooden tablets to efficient， minuscule script producible in multiple formats， thanks to the ants' technical knowhow。 As Liu writes， "Although dinosaur society had possessed a written language for a thousand years， its cultural development was painfully slow and had nearly come to a standstill in the last few centuries。 Until now。。。" Liu is clearly on the side of the language reformers and futurists that Tsu writes about。Anyways！ I enjoyed this。 I don't think it's， like， an incredible work， and it doesn't rival the Three-Body Trilogy， but reading it for what it is， i。e。， a light satirical entertainment in the sci-fi mode， it's fun。 For fans of Liu's other work， definitely worth checking out。 。。。more
Jasper Wijnhoven
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I really disliked the beginning of the book。 It was confusing and illogical， saying that a 30 meter building had 4 stories among others。 But， after a lot of repetitive descriptions about how small ants are and how big dinosaurs are the book becomes really interesting。 Especially the ending is well written and really pulls you in。 Too bad the epilogue was more of the same。TLDR; It feels like a good book written badly。
Kacper Straszak
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ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS ANTS
Dalton Harmsen
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A truly witty and fun story
Rhonda
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A fast read but will remember it。 It almost seemed like non-fiction the fable was that convincing。 I was cheering the ants。 Loved the drawings of ants on the chapter title pages。
Oriente
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Majdnem tökéletes。 Az én ízlésemnek kicsit sok benne az ún。 nyilvánvaló tanulság。Meg aztán ez egy olyan történet， amihez nehéz érzelmileg kapcsolódni， mivel a szereplők hol hegyméretű， agresszív hüllők， hol fontoskodó， csáprázó kollektívák。 És átlagosan mindenki csak egy fejezetnyit él - ez egy ilyen műfaj， többezer évet máshogy nem lehet megírni。 Utóbbit （mármint ezt a szenvtelen távolságtartást） meg tudom bocsátani a könyvnek: kisregény， hard SF， belefér。 A végét viszont szerintem túltekerte C Majdnem tökéletes。 Az én ízlésemnek kicsit sok benne az ún。 nyilvánvaló tanulság。Meg aztán ez egy olyan történet， amihez nehéz érzelmileg kapcsolódni， mivel a szereplők hol hegyméretű， agresszív hüllők， hol fontoskodó， csáprázó kollektívák。 És átlagosan mindenki csak egy fejezetnyit él - ez egy ilyen műfaj， többezer évet máshogy nem lehet megírni。 Utóbbit （mármint ezt a szenvtelen távolságtartást） meg tudom bocsátani a könyvnek: kisregény， hard SF， belefér。 A végét viszont szerintem túltekerte Cixin Liu， nem stimmelt， így rossz szájízt hagyott。 Eh， majdnem tökéletes volt。 。。。more
David Sutton
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Liu Cixin has a great dynamic range to write about the contrast between the greatest and least of things。 This is not a short story， but an alternate history of Earth if ants and dinosaurs worked together to create civilization。 Differences between individualistic and collective cultures can be explored through contrasting the ants and dinosaurs。 In this way lessons can be applied from the story for Chinese and Western cultures to coexist for a prosperous future。
Natalia Lekki
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4。25 ⭐Bardzo dobra。 Myślałam że będzie bardziej humorystyczna a napisana była stylem naukowym， nie zawsze prostym i przyjemnym。
Chris
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First book read by this author and i quite enjoyed the premise。 dino's battling ants with a pretext of modern day drama works well， just good luck describing this to others。 First book read by this author and i quite enjoyed the premise。 dino's battling ants with a pretext of modern day drama works well， just good luck describing this to others。 。。。more
Artthorr
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Bardzo przyjemnie （lekko） się czyta， ciekawy pomysł （raczej -w moim odbiorze- bajkowy niż SF）， chociaż jeśli chodzi o antropomorfizację mrówek， to wolę "Wyjście z cienia" Zajdla。 W każdym razie polecam， jako znacznie przystępniejsze od "Pioruna kulistego" ale na dzieło pokroju "Problemu 3 ciał" przyjdzie nam zapewne jeszcze długo poczekać。 Bardzo przyjemnie （lekko） się czyta， ciekawy pomysł （raczej -w moim odbiorze- bajkowy niż SF）， chociaż jeśli chodzi o antropomorfizację mrówek， to wolę "Wyjście z cienia" Zajdla。 W każdym razie polecam， jako znacznie przystępniejsze od "Pioruna kulistego" ale na dzieło pokroju "Problemu 3 ciał" przyjdzie nam zapewne jeszcze długo poczekać。 。。。more
Daniel
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Taattua laatua Cixin Liulta。 Ei tietysti niin mahtipontinen kuin Three body problem， mutta tiivis ja kiinnostava ajatusleikki。
kea
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i have a soft spot for books that can lure me in without having the kind of dramatic interpersonal stuff that usually catches my eye， and this held my attention from start to finish
Maria ⚜️
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Jakie to było interesujące， jakbym czytała dobry reportaż。
Callum Gapes
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 An unfortunately too realistic political commentary disguised as a lighthearted SciFi novel。 As an animal lover I thoroughly enjoyed the development of the ant and dinosaur empires， with the development from unthinking creatures （as animals are too often perceived） into personified beings。 I also learned quite a few interesting words - Formican: relating to ants。The sheer difference in magnitude between the ants and dinosaurs portrays the ants as the underdogs， but their value as a community pre An unfortunately too realistic political commentary disguised as a lighthearted SciFi novel。 As an animal lover I thoroughly enjoyed the development of the ant and dinosaur empires， with the development from unthinking creatures （as animals are too often perceived） into personified beings。 I also learned quite a few interesting words - Formican: relating to ants。The sheer difference in magnitude between the ants and dinosaurs portrays the ants as the underdogs， but their value as a community prevailed in multiple situations - I view the dinosaurs' underestimation and ignorance of the ants quite relevant as a depiction of how minority and less privileged groups are treated by the "superior" in society。 The plot was fast-paced， both ant and dinosaur quickly progressing through the ages of technological advancement。 The importance of cooperation between species was reinforced throughout history， only reinforcing the bleakness of the ending - both groups forgot their roots， the fact that they relied almost completely on each other， resulting in total destruction。 The lack of any specific political connections was refreshing， leaving the book open to a wide variety of real world interpretations by the reader。 。。。more
Charles Korb
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This is a fun little novella。 It feels a little like Cixin Liu writes Redwall but I'm not sure how much of that is that 100% of the characters are animals who communicate with each other using language。 However， it does still cover many of his favorite themes around civilizational growth and conflict and could be a good intro to someone who is to young or unsure if they'd like it to read his The Three Body Problem This is a fun little novella。 It feels a little like Cixin Liu writes Redwall but I'm not sure how much of that is that 100% of the characters are animals who communicate with each other using language。 However， it does still cover many of his favorite themes around civilizational growth and conflict and could be a good intro to someone who is to young or unsure if they'd like it to read his The Three Body Problem 。。。more
Sherron Wahrheit
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 Another of his “ants and dinosaurs” stories， but this is not as interesting， creative， or emotionally fulfilling as the one about spacefaring dinosaurs。 Several things I find problematic。 Alternative histories are rarely as interesting as reality， and this story tells of how the crustacean period ends instead of by means of the impact crater off the Yucatán Peninsula。The characters in the books are animals， but they seem to think like mankind instead of their own species， so it reads like social Another of his “ants and dinosaurs” stories， but this is not as interesting， creative， or emotionally fulfilling as the one about spacefaring dinosaurs。 Several things I find problematic。 Alternative histories are rarely as interesting as reality， and this story tells of how the crustacean period ends instead of by means of the impact crater off the Yucatán Peninsula。The characters in the books are animals， but they seem to think like mankind instead of their own species， so it reads like social sf instead of hard sf。 I particularly dislike stories that have animals as the protagonist—like those cozy mysteries where a cat solves a mystery。 But。 Some of those I DO like。 As social sf， this novella is simplistic and heavy-handed， and seems to be an allegory about trust。 The story begins with an ants-and-dinosaurs version of the lion and mouse Aesop’s fable but ends in distrust among the dino factions: a tentative détente， a dark matter bomb， and a dead man’s switch—an ultimate symbol of distrust。 Then in the epilogue thousands of years later， ants philosophically summarize the failure of their collaboration with dinosaurs as “size matters。” Which is closer to the truth， and not at all supported by an interesting or relevant story。 I think “size” is a very interesting concept and would love to read some speculative fiction pertaining to size。 Oh dear， the goofy parts where ants go traveling through the dinosaurs’ bodies remind me of the comedy of Denis Quaid traveling through the bloodstream in Innerspace or Rick Moranis in Honey I Shrunk The Kids。 His short story about the astronaut returning to earth only to find a dead earth with super tiny people is a better example。 。。。more
Chris Ainsworth
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